Quotes Uncovered: Who First Said "If You Can't Beat Em … "

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Each week, I’ve been inviting readers to submit quotations for which they want me to try to trace the origin, using The Yale Book of Quotations and my own research. Here is the latest round:

Josh asked:

If you can’t beat them, join them.

The Yale Book of Quotations, which attempts to trace all famous quotations to their earliest findable occurrence, lists this as a proverb. The earliest citation given, in the form “If you can’t lick ‘em, jine ‘em,” is from the Atlantic Monthly, February 1932, where it is described as one of Senator James E. Watson‘s “favorite sayings.”

Hayley Lauren asked:

I have been trying to find the roots of this quote, and if this is its original form:

“There have only ever been four or five stories in this world, we just tell them in different forms.”
Wow!

This thought has probably been expressed by many people. The best-known version is from Willa Cather, O Pioneers! (1913): “There are only two or three human stories, and they go on repeating themselves as fiercely as if they had never happened before.”

John asked:

I remember seeing a phrase a long time ago that went something along the lines of “If it were not for women, all the money in the world would be worthless.” Just curious if I am remembering it correctly and who said it.

The YBQ has the following:

“If women didn’t exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning.” Aristotle Onassis, quoted in Barbara Rowes, The Book of Quotes (1979).

Next week: My long-awaited response to questions about the origin of “the whole nine yards”!

Do any readers have any other quotations whose origins they would like me to attempt to trace?

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COMMENTS: 49

  1. Nathan says:

    I always thought that was mole asses in January. . .

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  2. EconomicAshley says:

    I’d like to know who these 4 men were.
    John, as in commode.
    Jack, as in Jack of all trades.
    Jerry, as in Jerry-rig.
    And most importantly:
    Josh, as in just Joshing.

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  3. Laura says:

    “He who sacrifices liberty to obtain safety deserves neither.” Usually attributed to Benjamin Franklin, but I’ve seen it in so many different phrasings that I’m wondering what the original (and the original context) is.

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  4. Lisa McElroy says:

    I would like to know the provenance of the quote, “There is no justice. There is only the law.” I have heard that it was said by Oliver Wendell Holmes, but I can’t find any confirmation of that.

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  5. A.E. says:

    I’ve always wondered about the origins (and even the exact meaning) of the phrase “red headed stepchild” as in “beaten like a red headed stepchild”

    AE

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  6. Jennifer says:

    Socrates quote “Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers” People keep quoting it, and it shows up in dictionaries of quotes, but no one seems to cite the original source.

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  7. Roger von Oech says:

    Jim in comment #5 says:

    The book, “A Whack on the Side of the Head” by Roger von Oech credits “Sacred Cows make the best steaks,” to Richard Nicolosi.

    I’m the author of that book. in June 1985, Dick Nicolosi (then a VP at Proctor & Gamble) made that comment to me in a meeting prior to a creativity seminar I did for his group in Cincy. I immediately wrote it down, and told Dick that it had the “ring of truth.” He said, “Feel free to use it in one of your books!”

    Roger von Oech

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  8. JohnnyE says:

    Go you must.
    No guest shall stay
    in one place for ever.
    Love will be lost
    if you sit too long
    at a friend’s fire.

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